I just realized that there are major parallels between Sam’s relationship with John and Jack’s relationship with the Doctor.
Jack wants the Doctor to approve of and be proud of him, but doesn’t agree with his approach and isn’t certain that earning the Doctor’s appreciation (and love) is worth sacrificing his own personal purpose anymore. So there’s this conflicted tug of war inside Jack, going on whenever they meet, because Jack can’t help but love the Doctor even though he has major doubts and also some resentment for being abandoned. The Doctor would tell him that he had something else pressing going on, of course, that Jack couldn’t possibly know about. Which Jack will accept and believe, although a cold accusatory part of him will always think, “of course you prioritized everything else over me.”
The resentment will never go away, and it makes a hard scar that will always stay between them. They may have good reasons for what they’ve done, but while they may be able to justify it to one another, forgiveness is something else entirely.
Now replace ‘Jack’ and ‘The Doctor’ with ‘Sam’ and ‘John.’
I love this! But I also think there’s some major parallels between Jack and the Doctor and the way DEAN and John relate.
Specifically because Dean and Jack are both soldier-types. Jack and Dean both unquestioningly follow that other person, sometimes with almost starry-eyed affection despite the consequences. I agree that Jack has some resentment for being left behind, but we pretty much never see it expressed (except perhaps as his final choice to leave the Doctor at the end of Saxon!Master).
And Dean has obvious resentment against his father (for the lifestyle, for putting all of this responsibility shit on him, etc) but Dean never has a chance to express that resentment until John is actually dead (I’m thinking specifically of when he confronts his demon!self in the dream world and he finally admits he doesn’t deserve to die).
I think they both dedicated themselves to someone they thought was bigger and better themselves and they were let down.
I think Jack follows the Doctor because he’s trying to prove to himself that he’s not a bad man (essentially for redemption from what he’s done before, being a conman, what he can’t even remember, etc.), and he’s looking to the Doctor for that confirmation. In the same way Dean is following John because he wants to be the loyal son, and because he has it in his head that the more loyal he is the more safe Sam will be (and he’s obviously seeking redemption for THAT ONE TIME he fucked up as a kid). Jack and Dean NEED this approval, in a way I don’t really see Sam needing it. Wanting it, sure, but not needing it to confirm their identity in the way Jack and Dean do.
I also don’t think Jack ever suffers the same rebellion that Sam does. I guess you could argue leaving the Doctor for Torchwood is a separation of sort but it doesn’t have the animosity with which Sam left hunting behind. Whenever the Doctor shows up Jack will jump in to the fray, he always does. And I see Dean doing the same too, but Sam will never readily say “yes sir” unless he’s personally sure of the orders. There’s just this sort of “favorite son”, “trained soldier” trope they both fit into in regards to the Doctor and John.
#I’ve just noticed #Sherlock’s little tremble #the gun shakes in his hand #nononojohnwhatareyoudoing #and that look #the fucking look of fear #his whole face softened #he’s panicking again #ugh i just keep watching it #can we not #asdfghjkjhgfdsasdfghjhgfdsa
That last 3 frames before the loop. HOLY FUCK.
Do you SEE how young and utterly unprepared for this he is?
This is the boy Mrs Hudson sees, the teen Mycroft can’t help but be frustrated by, and the man inside the machine John would die to protect.
Because Sherlock, in his way, is so very vulnerable, even if he never sees it. Or more, chooses to hide this vulnerability even from himself.
So very unprepared to deal with his own humanity.
His own emotions.
And right here, we can see that vulnerability, that emotion plainly and so obviously.
That last 3 frames?
They break my damn heart.
John is actually prepared to die for him. This is an experience unknown to Sherlock.
He has no idea what is going on here. That slight tilt of the eyebrow gives him away.
He has had to live most of his life without friends.
And for Sherlock to experience what friendship truly means, it is heartbreaking really.
We’re having fun but you may call it madness: merindab: dvancecinco: I’m just trying to imagine hunting before cell…
I’m just trying to imagine hunting before cell phones and the internet.
The library, obviously, and journals. And land lines. Pay phones. Asking to use phones at places of business. Newspapers.
I imagine a lot more people died just because of the rate of the…
All this. And like after school special, Dean might enroll just to keep an eye on Sam. Their school records wouldn’t have been online until sometime in the 90s anyway.
Or I wrote a fic where Dean was caught with a knife at school. Back in the 80s it wasn’t that big of a deal. And I have to explain that to people.
I’m just trying to imagine hunting before cell phones and the internet.
The library, obviously, and journals. And land lines. Pay phones. Asking to use phones at places of business. Newspapers.
I imagine a lot more people died just because of the rate of the flow of information was so much slower. I guess hunting would have been more localized.
#supernatural #thinking about the good old days #i can imagine bobby and john in a rare moment of friendship #sharing a beer #reminiscing about how things were simpler #just demons and werewolves and maybe a skinwalker or two #back when they had to hunt down the information first #before they had to go hunt down the crazy stuff #saving people #it was easy to impersonate law officers too #back before this new-fangled hologram technology #and fingerprint recognition #they didn’t have to be as careful about the trail they left behind
Probably why John left the boys alone so much when they were kids, had to travel more. Libraries and little old ladies who kept town secrets. Charming their way into city halls for records. Then times when they were desperate and alone in the middle of nowhere and no way to call for backup, just themselves and their guns and their wits. Probably what John raised Dean to be, especially.
Easier to hustle then too, or commit a little fraud to raise some cash. People were more trusting. Less people noticed if someone went missing. Were more willing to stop and help a stranger on the side of the road. Nobody really noticed these two boys were on their own because it wasn’t unusual to see a couple kids walking by themselves and if the older one seemed to hover and watch the younger one a little closely, well he was just being a good sibling, doing mom and dad a favor.
: Sam Winchester, Unworthy on the Inverted Cross
: Sam Winchester, Unworthy on the Inverted Cross
Mini-Meta time!
Sam Winchester parallels to Jesus Christ has been done before brilliantly in this fandom. This is merely a mini meta reflecting on a Christ symbolism used in his Sam’s mytharc. I am not sure if this was done before as I can’t remember ever reading about…













