I thought just how f*cking tragic it actually was – friggin’ IS – that John probably really did love, or at least very much care for Jack but realized it too late / was simply the single most unlucky person in the world really; I mean, he attempted to save Gray to earn Jack’s trust, right? To apologize, or to win him back maybe, or even just out of kindness? We won’t ever know but honestly – you can hold a lot against him but not that he attempted to save Jack (the way he tried to tell Jack that it wasn’t him who was truly in control of his actions, his voice all quiet and almost sad, sadder each time Jack didn’t realize, barely cared to look twice at him… the way he whispered ‘hold me’ and snuggled against Jack like he was about to cry soMEONE PLEASE JUST KILL ME), that he ****ING REFUSED Gray when he was supposed to fill Jack’s grave and only did so after Jack nodded his consent; that he finally DID save him and that he stayed. on. Earth. because Jack liked the planet so much. Because he hoped to run into him again sometime.
TELL ME HE IS A PLAIN-DEALING VILLAIN ONE MORE TIME AND I S W E A R I’LL—
sorry, sorry. Just had a lot of feels today, okay? *weak smile* Julia out.
how do other people deal with jack’s moment of transphobia in greek’s bearing gifts?
like do most people not even really notice it at all? have you figured out a way to explain it away? do you think it makes any kind of sense for jack’s character? what does the fandom actually think about this?
also, for everyone who’s been in the fandom way longer than me, has john barrowman ever addressed this moment? has anyone ever confronted him with it and asked him his thoughts on it?
I suppose that they did that just ‘‘for the laughs’‘ / didn’t actually mean all that much by it.
Somehow, that only makes it worse :/
(though no, I have no idea whatsoever whether john ever addressed that. anybody else??)
I don’t remember a scene where Jack is transphobic. Can someone tell me which scene it is? I feel like I’ve missed something here.
It’s towards the end of Greek Bearing Gifts, where Jack… let’s just say ‘‘joked’‘ about being ‘‘suspicious whenever a friend starts behaving out of character’‘ ever since a friend of his, named Victor apparently, behaved strangely for a while, went away for a couple of days or smth and when he came back, wanted to be called Vanessa (you can imagine the rest I guess).
It’s a pretty terrible moment I tend to forget until I watch the episode or someone talks about it. I know Barrowman has said some problematic things in the past himself. I’m sure the thought was it was for the laughs, but it’s a really ugly moment, and to me it feels out of character:
JACK: Friend of mine. Let’s call him Vincent, that was his name after all. Regular guy, girlfriend, likes his sport, likes a beer. He starts acting a little strange, a little distracted. Suddenly he disappears for a couple of months. He comes back, and we’ve got to start calling him Vanessa. Since then I’ve always been a little nervous when a friend behaves out of character. I’m sorry, we haven’t been introduced. Jack Harkness. My guess is you’re not from around these parts.
owen’s the kind of guy who has a really nice king sized bed with plush pillows and a feather comforter but he hardly ever uses it and sleeps on his couch all the time
cute first date ideas: fight a fucking pterodactyl. fucking FIGHT with ur significant other against a giant fucking flying dinosaur that came through a rift in space and time. fucckging FIGHT A DINOSAUR
