Imagine a conspiracy theorist talking about how they think Cap is still alive and out there somewhere and they’re like ‘yeah but what if his super serum stuff kept his body ALIVE in the ICE and he’s been WORKING FOR THE SECRET MILITARY EVER SINCE-’ but everyone else is just like ‘shut up lol’
okay sorry to add but
What if it was Tony?
His huge project for college is This Theory, and who better to cover it? His own father worked with Cap, and it’s kind of a “Screw You” to his father, working on a Captain America project, something Howard never thought he could do.
He has hours of research put in, a paper carefully proofread and academically professional thanks to vetting by Rhodey, and–
Tony gets laughed out of town. He can’t be serious, right? There’s no way a human would actually survive for seventy years. What about nutrition intakes? Temperatures? Cap may be enhanced, but he’s not Perfection (no matter what Howard would slur late at night).
But Tony still has it. Occasionally, it’ll get brought up on interviews.
Flash forward decades later, and Cap comes out of the ice.
It is literally all over Tony’s twitter:
“GUESS WHO WAS RIGHT ASSHOLES?????? GUESS. TAKE A WILD GUESS.”
He has the link to the paper on his Instagram, shoves it in his asshole-former professor’s face who told him he was wasting his time.
Tony is thriving and best of all?
Steve is the same way. He’s petty, he likes proving people right, and so he tweets about the paper a couple months later, saying: “I know I live with a genius, but wow! He knew about me before any of you!”
Imagine a conspiracy theorist talking about how they think Cap is still alive and out there somewhere and they’re like ‘yeah but what if his super serum stuff kept his body ALIVE in the ICE and he’s been WORKING FOR THE SECRET MILITARY EVER SINCE-’ but everyone else is just like ‘shut up lol’
okay sorry to add but
What if it was Tony?
His huge project for college is This Theory, and who better to cover it? His own father worked with Cap, and it’s kind of a “Screw You” to his father, working on a Captain America project, something Howard never thought he could do.
He has hours of research put in, a paper carefully proofread and academically professional thanks to vetting by Rhodey, and–
Tony gets laughed out of town. He can’t be serious, right? There’s no way a human would actually survive for seventy years. What about nutrition intakes? Temperatures? Cap may be enhanced, but he’s not Perfection (no matter what Howard would slur late at night).
But Tony still has it. Occasionally, it’ll get brought up on interviews.
Flash forward decades later, and Cap comes out of the ice.
It is literally all over Tony’s twitter:
“GUESS WHO WAS RIGHT ASSHOLES?????? GUESS. TAKE A WILD GUESS.”
He has the link to the paper on his Instagram, shoves it in his asshole-former professor’s face who told him he was wasting his time.
Tony is thriving and best of all?
Steve is the same way. He’s petty, he likes proving people right, and so he tweets about the paper a couple months later, saying: “I know I live with a genius, but wow! He knew about me before any of you!”
Headcanon that Tony Stark sometimes supply teaches tech/shop classes at local high schools for free when budget is tight, or to just give the teachers a break. He shows up and the kids lose it for a little bit, but then they settle down and listen. It gives them hope, because everyone always trashes the trades and people who work them, but this genius, billionare, playboy, philanthropist took time to teach them this class. He knows trades, and he thinks they’re worth something. He thinks these kids are worth something.
Sometimes I think about the Tony that we had at the end of Avengers, smiling with his girlfriend in their tower after he saved New York from a nuke, building a new home base for the Avengers.
And then came the PTSD and the Maximoffs, Ultron and ‘together,’ the Accords and ‘did you know?’ and I think of the Tony we have now, sad, broken, tired. All his fault, always his fault, right, Stark? Still trying, but not with the effervescent drive of Avengers, but with the determination of a dying man.
And I hate it, but sometimes I think the Avengers were the worst thing that ever happened to Tony Stark.
😭😭😭😭😭
I love all the Avengers. I really do. But this is the damned truth. The Avengers are unequivocally one of the worst things to happen to Tony in his life – a life that was already full of worst things.
Tony’s relationship with the Avengers begins when Nick Fury approaches him about joining in Iron Man 2. Tony turns down any talk of the Avengers (”I don’t want to join your secret boy band”) because he’s dying. It’s in this same scene Tony learns Pepper’s new assistant “Natalie Rushman” is actually an undercover spy for SHIELD who has been assessing him (an assessment done while he’s on a self-destructive binge due to the whole “dying” situation).
After Tony has cured his palladium poisoning and put an end to Vanko, he approaches Nick again, actually excited about the prospect of joining the Avengers team now that he’s healthy, only to be turned down. Due to Romanoff’s less-than-flattering assessment of his character, Tony is only wanted in a “consultant” capacity. While it’s not overt, it’s clear this is a slap in the face, but Tony brushes it off and waives his usually exorbitant consultant fee solely to be a petty jackass to Senator Stern (because, get this, Tony still wants in – even if in a small role).
Tony’s next brush with the Avengers is in the The Avengers film itself. Tony is enjoying a quiet date night with Pepper when he’s interrupted by Agent Coulson who basically drags him into the “Loki stole the Tesseract from SHIELD” mess. Tony reminds Coulson that he’s a consultant, and Coulson says, “This isn’t about personality profiles anymore” to emphasize how dire the situation is. It’s actually Pepper who convinces Tony to get involved (or at least she’s the one who gives him the go ahead), because Tony was fully willing to tell Coulson “no” if Pepper didn’t want him to go.
We all know what happens next. The team doesn’t gel quite at first. Steve Rogers and Tony especially don’t get along. But then Coulson’s death is that sort of rallying moment to make them put aside their differences. A nuclear warhead is shot at NYC, and Tony – the man who isn’t even officially on the Avengers roster – is the only one who can put it in the wormhole and save everyone. Tony does this unhesitatingly, without even getting to say goodbye to the woman he loves, fully expecting to die, but miraculously he survives –
But lives forever with the psychological scars.
Iron Man 3 details how Tony is coping with his near-death experience – and it’s not good. He can’t sleep. He’s hoarding robots. He’s a “piping hot mess” and he admits in a vulnerable moment that Pepper is the only constant in his life holding him together. By the end of the film, it seems he might’ve resolved some of his trauma. He destroys his Iron Man suits. But then we see in Age of Ultron that Tony is still not well. He’s paranoid, jumpy, he still holds onto his suits. While helping the Avengers mop up HYDRA, Wanda Maximoff hexes him, making him see his worst nightmare.
And his worst nightmare? The Avengers – this group he considers a family even after being rejected by them – lying dead around him while he still lives.
In essence? It was Tony’s love for the Avengers that led to the birth of Ultron, because it was his fear of not doing enough to protect them that drove him to resurrect his and Bruce’s old pipe dream of a “suit of armor around the world.”
Of course we see no reaction from the group to Tony’s horrific vision because he he never tells them what he saw (he admits he can’t). Instead, they blame him, in one instance even physically assault him, for his mistake – a mistake he made because he loves these people so much.
Already we see a pattern with Tony and the Avengers. He’s always the odd-man-out. For one, he was never really technically an original Avenger (he got shoehorned in because of desperation). For two, he was the villain of Age of Ultron while the others got to be heroes (nevermind why he did what he did or the circumstances that led to that decision).
And then? Comes Captain America: Civil War. And it’s Tony’s desperate drive to keep the Avengers together that ends up breaking them apart. While Steve had already given up on the Avengers before the airport fight in Germany (as signified by the fact he removed his “Avengers” patch on his uniform), Tony was still trying to prevent further damage to the team (because he’s a foolish optimist). In his mind, he’d rather the Avengers stick together even under the imperfect Accords than be forced into hiding from their own government, living on the run. By the end of the film, once all the fighting is over, Rhodey is paralyzed, Steve and Tony are no longer on speaking terms, the Avengers are into the wind, T’Challa is back in Wakanda, and it’s only Tony and Vision at the Compound.
… And even then Vision leaves Tony too in Avengers: Infinity War.
In fact, it’s very interesting that, in Avengers: Infinity War, Tony doesn’t interact with any Avengers except Bruce – and even then he doesn’t fight alongside Bruce. Kind of intriguing that Bruce is
ultimately
the one who makes the call to get the Avengers back together even though Tony was the one who had the cellphone on his person for the past two years, right? Even more telling that, by the end of the film, Tony is the Avenger who is furthest from home. He is literally light-yearsaway on an alien planet while everyone else is back on Earth. This is symbolic of the place he’s always had in the Avengers “family” – left in the cold.
Tony’s love for the Avengers, his heart, has been the thing slowly undoing him from the inside out. He’s never truly belonged to the team (as the films have plainly demonstrated), but he tries and tries and tries to do right by them and protect them to the best of his ability. It’s the saddest fucking thing.
Hopefully Avengers 4 finally offers Tony some comfort for all this. Maybe he’ll finally find a family where he belongs.
The original post was heartbreaking enough and you had to go and stomp all over my already bleeding heart @starkravinghazelnuts
Sometimes I think about the Tony that we had at the end of Avengers, smiling with his girlfriend in their tower after he saved New York from a nuke, building a new home base for the Avengers.
And then came the PTSD and the Maximoffs, Ultron and ‘together,’ the Accords and ‘did you know?’ and I think of the Tony we have now, sad, broken, tired. All his fault, always his fault, right, Stark? Still trying, but not with the effervescent drive of Avengers, but with the determination of a dying man.
And I hate it, but sometimes I think the Avengers were the worst thing that ever happened to Tony Stark.
😭😭😭😭😭
I love all the Avengers. I really do. But this is the damned truth. The Avengers are unequivocally one of the worst things to happen to Tony in his life – a life that was already full of worst things.
Tony’s relationship with the Avengers begins when Nick Fury approaches him about joining in Iron Man 2. Tony turns down any talk of the Avengers (”I don’t want to join your secret boy band”) because he’s dying. It’s in this same scene Tony learns Pepper’s new assistant “Natalie Rushman” is actually an undercover spy for SHIELD who has been assessing him (an assessment done while he’s on a self-destructive binge due to the whole “dying” situation).
After Tony has cured his palladium poisoning and put an end to Vanko, he approaches Nick again, actually excited about the prospect of joining the Avengers team now that he’s healthy, only to be turned down. Due to Romanoff’s less-than-flattering assessment of his character, Tony is only wanted in a “consultant” capacity. While it’s not overt, it’s clear this is a slap in the face, but Tony brushes it off and waives his usually exorbitant consultant fee solely to be a petty jackass to Senator Stern (because, get this, Tony still wants in – even if in a small role).
Tony’s next brush with the Avengers is in the The Avengers film itself. Tony is enjoying a quiet date night with Pepper when he’s interrupted by Agent Coulson who basically drags him into the “Loki stole the Tesseract from SHIELD” mess. Tony reminds Coulson that he’s a consultant, and Coulson says, “This isn’t about personality profiles anymore” to emphasize how dire the situation is. It’s actually Pepper who convinces Tony to get involved (or at least she’s the one who gives him the go ahead), because Tony was fully willing to tell Coulson “no” if Pepper didn’t want him to go.
We all know what happens next. The team doesn’t gel quite at first. Steve Rogers and Tony especially don’t get along. But then Coulson’s death is that sort of rallying moment to make them put aside their differences. A nuclear warhead is shot at NYC, and Tony – the man who isn’t even officially on the Avengers roster – is the only one who can put it in the wormhole and save everyone. Tony does this unhesitatingly, without even getting to say goodbye to the woman he loves, fully expecting to die, but miraculously he survives –
But lives forever with the psychological scars.
Iron Man 3 details how Tony is coping with his near-death experience – and it’s not good. He can’t sleep. He’s hoarding robots. He’s a “piping hot mess” and he admits in a vulnerable moment that Pepper is the only constant in his life holding him together. By the end of the film, it seems he might’ve resolved some of his trauma. He destroys his Iron Man suits. But then we see in Age of Ultron that Tony is still not well. He’s paranoid, jumpy, he still holds onto his suits. While helping the Avengers mop up HYDRA, Wanda Maximoff hexes him, making him see his worst nightmare.
And his worst nightmare? The Avengers – this group he considers a family even after being rejected by them – lying dead around him while he still lives.
In essence? It was Tony’s love for the Avengers that led to the birth of Ultron, because it was his fear of not doing enough to protect them that drove him to resurrect his and Bruce’s old pipe dream of a “suit of armor around the world.”
Of course we see no reaction from the group to Tony’s horrific vision because he he never tells them what he saw (he admits he can’t). Instead, they blame him, in one instance even physically assault him, for his mistake – a mistake he made because he loves these people so much.
Already we see a pattern with Tony and the Avengers. He’s always the odd-man-out. For one, he was never really technically an original Avenger (he got shoehorned in because of desperation). For two, he was the villain of Age of Ultron while the others got to be heroes (nevermind why he did what he did or the circumstances that led to that decision).
And then? Comes Captain America: Civil War. And it’s Tony’s desperate drive to keep the Avengers together that ends up breaking them apart. While Steve had already given up on the Avengers before the airport fight in Germany (as signified by the fact he removed his “Avengers” patch on his uniform), Tony was still trying to prevent further damage to the team (because he’s a foolish optimist). In his mind, he’d rather the Avengers stick together even under the imperfect Accords than be forced into hiding from their own government, living on the run. By the end of the film, once all the fighting is over, Rhodey is paralyzed, Steve and Tony are no longer on speaking terms, the Avengers are into the wind, T’Challa is back in Wakanda, and it’s only Tony and Vision at the Compound.
… And even then Vision leaves Tony too in Avengers: Infinity War.
In fact, it’s very interesting that, in Avengers: Infinity War, Tony doesn’t interact with any Avengers except Bruce – and even then he doesn’t fight alongside Bruce. Kind of intriguing that Bruce is
ultimately
the one who makes the call to get the Avengers back together even though Tony was the one who had the cellphone on his person for the past two years, right? Even more telling that, by the end of the film, Tony is the Avenger who is furthest from home. He is literally light-yearsaway on an alien planet while everyone else is back on Earth. This is symbolic of the place he’s always had in the Avengers “family” – left in the cold.
Tony’s love for the Avengers, his heart, has been the thing slowly undoing him from the inside out. He’s never truly belonged to the team (as the films have plainly demonstrated), but he tries and tries and tries to do right by them and protect them to the best of his ability. It’s the saddest fucking thing.
Hopefully Avengers 4 finally offers Tony some comfort for all this. Maybe he’ll finally find a family where he belongs.
The original post was heartbreaking enough and you had to go and stomp all over my already bleeding heart @starkravinghazelnuts
