{"id":283554,"date":"2018-09-20T12:21:03","date_gmt":"2018-09-20T12:21:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2018\/09\/20\/hey-dumb-american-question-here-every-uk-person\/"},"modified":"2018-09-20T12:21:03","modified_gmt":"2018-09-20T12:21:03","slug":"hey-dumb-american-question-here-every-uk-person","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2018\/09\/20\/hey-dumb-american-question-here-every-uk-person\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey, dumb American question here. Every UK person I have ever met hates Margaret Thatcher. Why? What terrible thing did she do to piss off that many people for so long?"},"content":{"rendered":"

doctornerdington<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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assassinregrets<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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deathproofmedb<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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jorangermusic<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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twenty-three-stars<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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leoinengland<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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dracofidus<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Where do I fucking start?<\/p>\n

So, Thatcher was the bane of the working classes, and much of what she did still has repercussions to this day. So, in no particular order, just in the order I remember them, here are some things she did that pissed us off –\u00a0<\/p>\n

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In 1989 she introduced this thing called the\u00a0\u201cCommunity Charge<\/a>\u201d but which everyone calls the\u00a0\u201cPoll Tax\u201d which replaced an older system in which your tax payment was based on the rental value of your home. This new tax meant that people living in one bedroom flats would pay the same as a billionaire living in a mansion. Obviously, the rich loved it, everyone else\u2026 not so much. So there were riots<\/a>\u00a0(video of news about the riots<\/a>)\u00a0– There were lots of riots in the Thatcher years, and they were all notable for the extreme levels of police brutality.<\/p>\n

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(photo, poll tax protest in Trafalgar Square, 1990)<\/p>\n

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Then there was her war on industry. There was a lot of inflation when she came to power, so she instituted anti-inflationary measures. All well and good\u2026 except not the way she did it. She closed many government controlled industries, most famously steel and coal. The amount spent on public industries dropped by 38% under Thatcher. The coal miners went on strike<\/a>, for almost a year, but in the end, the pits were still closed, and 64,000 people lost their jobs<\/a>. Unemployment rates soared in industrial areas, and inequality between these (generally northern or welsh) areas and the rest of the UK is still there. During the strike there were numerous violent clashes with the police at picket lines which were widely televised. As a memoir from one miner attests: \u201c<\/p>\n

I saw a police officer with a fire extinguisher in his hand, bashing a lad in the back. I tried to get closer to note down the officer\u2019s number but they were wearing black boilersuits with no numbers. The next thing I knew, a police officer struck me from behind. I was coming in and out of consciousness as I was dragged across the road into an alleyway. They blocked off the alley and beat another lad and me with sticks until I was unconscious.\u201d (I can\u2019t post the whole thing it\u2019s too long, but read it in the Guardian<\/a>) Images such as this swept the country, turning many people against Thatcher –<\/p>\n

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And after it was all over people felt Thatcher had lied, saying she wanted to close only 20 pits, when in the end, 75 were closed down.<\/p>\n

\u2022 Inequality soared whilst she was prime minister. There is a thing called the\u00a0gini coefficient, it is the most common method of measuring inequality. Under gini, a score of one would be a completely unequal society; zero would be completely equal. Britain\u2019s gini score went up from 0.253 to 0.339<\/a> by the time Thatcher resigned.<\/p>\n

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During her time as prime minister the notorious \u2018Section 28\u2032<\/a> was published. It stated:\u00a0A local authority shall not (a) intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality; (b) promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship. – Section 28 wasn\u2019t repealed until 2003.<\/p>\n

\u2022 She introduced the\u00a0Right To Buy scheme<\/a>, which allowed people to buy their council houses for a very low price, which, at first glance, seems like a great idea, allowing people who normally wouldn\u2019t be able to afford their own home to have one – however, loads of people have entered the scheme and now we have far too little social housing, meaning there has been a sharp rise in homelessness.<\/p>\n

\u2022 The Battle of the Beanfield was a clash between hippies and police near Stonehenge in 1985. 1300 police officers converged on a convoy of 600 new age travellers who were heading to Stonehenge to set up a free festival in violation of a high court order. Again, there was an insane amount of police brutality, and 16 travellers were hospitalised, 573 people were arrested (one of the biggest mass arrests in UK history) –\u00a0\u201cPregnant women were clubbed with truncheons, as were those holding babies. The journalist Nick Davies, then working for The Observer, saw the violence. \u2018They were like flies around rotten meat,\u2019 he wrote, \u2018and there was no question of trying to make a lawful arrest. They crawled all over, truncheons flailing, hitting anybody they could reach. It was extremely violent and very sickening.\u2019\u201d (source<\/a>) – Once everyone was arrested, the empty vehicles, which were in many cases the only homes the travellers had\u00a0\u201cwere then systematically smashed to pieces and several were set on fire. Seven healthy dogs belonging to the Travellers were put down by officers from the RSPCA.\u201d (source same as above)<\/p>\n

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Most of the charges were dismissed in court after Lord Cardigan, who had tagged along with them to see what would happen, testified on behalf of the travellers against the police.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Her removal of Irish dissidents right to be placed in a category that essentially made them political prisoners instead of merely criminals led to a hunger strike that ended in 10 deaths, including that of Bobby Sands, who was elected from his prison cell, reflecting the immense national, and international support for Irish nationalists<\/a>. Thatchers lack of sympathy, or even empathy led to her becoming even more of a hate figure.<\/p>\n

\u2022 She presided over a rapid\u00a0deregulation of the banks<\/a>, which ultimately led to much of the problems during britains 2007-2012 financial crash many years later.<\/p>\n

\u2022 She took free milk from school children, which, though not as serious as anything else listed here, directly affected every child in the UK and was very unpopular, leading her to get the nickname\u00a0\u201cMaggie Thatcher, Milk Snatcher\u201d, which is still used today.<\/p>\n

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Oh\u2026 and she supported Apartheid<\/a> and called Mandela a terrorist.<\/p>\n

This is nowhere near everything she\u2019s done that pisses people off, but I hope it goes some way to explaining why when she died \u201cding dong the witch is dead\u201d became number one in the UK charts, people partied in the streets, and people protested her (State funded) funeral. She is a decisive figure, some people in the UK do actually love her. I do not. She decimated the UK\u2019s industrial heartland, she caused mass unemployment and the destruction of much of working class culture, she was cavalier in her financial policies and increased inequality by staggering levels, she approved serious police brutality and attempted to destroy the culture of unions in this country. \u00a0I fundamentally disagree with all she stood for and it angers me that her mistakes are still affecting this country and the people who live in it. And I am VERY angry that the current government are spending \u00a350 million on a museum about her.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Regarding selling off social housing, it was specifically that the income that local authorities generated from doing so was not allowed to be reinvested in acquiring new social housing. And no extra budget was allocated to cover building new social housing. The aim was clearly to create a social housing shortage as a twisted way of \u201cmotivating\u201d people to stop being poor.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Great post. I hate seeing US feminists praising Thatcher, and I\u2019ve seen it a lot.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Let\u2019s not forget how she made repeated attempts to get Britain\u2019s most prolific sex offender Jimmy Savile a knighthood<\/a>, gave him free rein to do whatever the hell he liked at Stoke Mandeville hospital <\/a>(including running it into the ground, making himself indispensable there, and oh yeah, abusing scores of patients), as well has having a close friendship with him<\/a>. This is all in spite of the fact that rumours about him were going around even back then, and on a related note, she actually knew of the abuse accusations against many of her ministers and let them go free despite this<\/a>.<\/p>\n

A feminist? Pah! She actually said,\u00a0\u201cThe feminists hate me, don\u2019t they? And I don\u2019t blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0(and if for some reason you don\u2019t trust that article, just google that quote). She also said that\u00a0\u201cthe\u00a0battle for women\u2019s rights has largely been won. I owe nothing to women\u2019s lib\u201d, and whilst being PM for 11 years, she only ever appointed one woman, Baroness Young. As this article<\/a> says, she basically \u201crefused to<\/p>\n

accept that the majority of women do not have the privilege she had, in other words a rich partner, and lots of childcare provision.\u201d In terms of feminism, she hated any woman who wasn\u2019t financially well off, able-bodied, cishet, white, neurotypical\u00a0(as you can see in this article<\/a>), and basically, like her. Great feminism.<\/p>\n

She also played a huge part in making Rupert Murdoch the hugely powerful man he is today<\/a> (and consequently, making the British press so unreliable, ridiculous, and downright dangerous), and it seems she also used this connection to help giver herself more\u00a0\u201csunshine headlines\u201d<\/a> (read: favourable).<\/p>\n

I could go on but I feel like I\u2019ve been at this for a while. OP has done a great job in summarising most of the main reasons she\u2019s so hated. I\u2019ve added a number of other important ones here too, but to be honest, just look at any reasonably credible article about her. If it seems positive, then google the topics at hand, and I guarantee there will be the flip side, often explained with a more socially conscious approach.<\/p>\n

If you want proof of the bigoted, unrepresentative establishment\u2019s continuing hold on Britain and our politics, just take a look at Thatcher, and take a look at those who praise her to the skies.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

This is a great post, all I really want to add is that Section 28 (which was a hateful enough piece of legislation anyway) was introduced during the AIDS crisis, & homophobia was very much on the rise at the time<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s also worth looking up the controversy surrounding the sinking of the General Belgrano, <\/i>which killed 323 people. during the Falklands War (Thatcher\u2019s response on hearing of it was\u00a0\u201cJust rejoice at that news\u201d)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

she supported pinochet both politically and personally and i hope she burns for 10,000 screaming years of agony<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

A young gay man at work the other day tried to tell me Thatcher was a \u201cgay icon\u201d because she was a powerful woman. I, um, stridently educated him. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

doctornerdington: assassinregrets: deathproofmedb: jorangermusic: twenty-three-stars: leoinengland: dracofidus: Where do I fucking start? So, Thatcher was the bane of the working classes, and much of what she did still has repercussions to this day. So, in no particular order, just in the order I remember them, here are some things she did that pissed us off … <\/p>\n

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