{"id":281743,"date":"2018-10-07T15:17:20","date_gmt":"2018-10-07T15:17:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2018\/10\/07\/me-and-my-male-showrunners-2\/"},"modified":"2018-10-07T15:17:20","modified_gmt":"2018-10-07T15:17:20","slug":"me-and-my-male-showrunners-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2018\/10\/07\/me-and-my-male-showrunners-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Me And My Male Showrunners"},"content":{"rendered":"

plaidadder<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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tzikeh<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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marsdaydream<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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plaidadder<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Today, on the way to work, I said to myself:\u00a0\u201cI\u2019m 46. It\u2019s 2016. I have a job, a wife, a daughter\u2026why am I still yelling at Chris Carter?\u201d<\/p>\n

You spend a lot of time yelling at male showrunners, I said to myself. All of it wasted. Does Steven Moffat care what you think about what he did to Doctor Who? Or about the end of Season 3 of Sherlock? Poor Gene Roddenberry is dead now, and you couldn\u2019t rewatch Star Trek TOS without yelling at him, poor man. And back in the day, how you used to yell at Piller and Berman and Brannon Braga about Next Generation and Deep Space Nine! It\u2019s a good thing you don\u2019t care enough about the J. J. Abrams Star Trek movies to waste time yelling at him too.\u00a0<\/p>\n

What is it that these showrunners all have in common? You know, apart from being men? Are there ANY male showrunners you\u2019re not yelling at?\u00a0<\/p>\n

I thought, well, there\u2019s John Finnemore.<\/p>\n

You all might not know who John Finnemore is. He ran\/wrote\/starred in a radio sitcom called\u00a0\u201cCabin Pressure\u201d whose cast included Benedict Cumberbatch. I love\u00a0\u201cCabin Pressure.\u201d This does not mean that I am never critical of it. Ask me sometime about the whole\u00a0\u201cMartin doesn\u2019t get paid\u201d thing.<\/a>\u00a0BUT, even when I am disappointed with something about it,\u00a0\u201cCabin Pressure\u201d doesn\u2019t make me angry the way I get when things go south in, say, The X-Files. Why not?<\/p>\n

Considering this question, I have arrived at these points:<\/p>\n

1) Finnemore put a lot of effort into plotting<\/b>. Of course you have to do this with a sitcom; take the plot out and you just have a random collection of one-liners and sight gags. But at its best,\u00a0\u201cCabin Pressure\u201d is very well-constructed and if you look at what he\u2019s said about the writing process it\u2019s clear that a lot of thought goes into that.\u00a0<\/p>\n

OK, so I\u2019m a plot geek and not everyone is about that. I get it. But then there\u2019s<\/p>\n

2) Finnemore put the show ahead of his own ego<\/b>. He played one of the characters, and I\u2019m not saying he never did himself a solid by writing something special for Arthur; but it\u2019s always an ensemble show, and the final product always matters more than anything any one character gets to do\u2013including the one Finnemore was playing.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Maybe that\u2019s what really makes me angry\u2013when I see the Big Cheese screwing everything up for the company and the creative team by insisting on something that serves his own ego but makes no sense for anyone else who\u2019s invested in the show. Cause I see that happen a lot in my real life and I KNOW how pissed off I get about that.<\/p>\n

Then I thought, you know what, Russell T. Davies might be an interesting borderline example here. I became a fan of Doctor Who during his era, and kind of became a fan of Torchwood even though, oh my God, the problems with Torchwood you could write a fucking book about. Why was I tolerant of Davies and his mistakes\u2013even when the individual mistakes made me extremely angry\u2013in a way that I was not tolerant of Moffat? And so I formulated postulate 3:<\/p>\n

3) I can put up with a lot of crap as long as the characters and their relationships work.<\/b><\/p>\n

And I guess this is why I end up yelling so much at the other guys. Back when I was trying to figure out how to write science fiction short stories, and reading the models, I did notice that most of the ones that made it into the big magazines were about 90% premise and 10% characterization. This mix does not work for me. I like speculative fiction but I also need characters whose emotions feel real to me and whose relationships are treated as if they are important. When the show\u2019s emotional plot is broken, that\u2019s when I get pissed off.<\/p>\n

For instance, I really hated the end of Doctor Who\u2019s fourth season because of the way it got rid of one of my favorite characters. Much yelling at RTD over that. BUT, I will say that what RTD did to Donna Noble in that episode, he did BECAUSE he understood her relationship to the Doctor and why it mattered and why we cared about her as a character. Same thing for the way he ended\u00a0\u201cChildren of Earth.\u201d I mean that was awful. But it was not awful in a way that made no emotional sense. It was awful because actually it did. I mean RTD was not nice to the viewers; he was not nice to his characters. But I believe that he knew them better than we did and that they felt at least as real to him as they did to us.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t believe that about Carter, when it comes to Mulder and Scully; and I guess I\u2019ve never believed it about Moffat either. So maybe that\u2019s the source of it. I don\u2019t know. I have work to do.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Reblogging this because YES. YES YES YES.<\/p>\n

1000000% agree about John Finnemore, and he is the example I bring up every single time when I want to point to a writer who constructed beautiful character arcs and actually pulled them off. The characters developed as people, everything made so much sense emotionally. The characters felt REAL because Finnemore treated them like they were.<\/p>\n

(My poor husband, he\u2019s the one who usually has to listen to me rant about John Finnemore. I mean, he totally agrees with me. But I can\u2019t stop.)<\/p>\n

And here, right here, is the difference between John Finnemore and Chris Carter and Moffat and Gatiss. Does the writer treat the characters as if they are real, or do they start treating them like a way to have fun?<\/p>\n

There\u2019s a big difference.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

For Your Consideration: Michael Schur (Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, The Good Place<\/i>)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Yeah, this is an old post and I hadn\u2019t started The Good Place or Brooklyn Nine-Nine yet when I wrote it. But usually I do not want to yell at Mike Schur.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

plaidadder: tzikeh: marsdaydream: plaidadder: Today, on the way to work, I said to myself:\u00a0\u201cI\u2019m 46. It\u2019s 2016. I have a job, a wife, a daughter\u2026why am I still yelling at Chris Carter?\u201d You spend a lot of time yelling at male showrunners, I said to myself. All of it wasted. Does Steven Moffat care what … <\/p>\n

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