{"id":222321,"date":"2014-03-14T08:23:32","date_gmt":"2014-03-14T08:23:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2014\/03\/14\/charamei-i-do-wonder-how-gallifreyan-culture\/"},"modified":"2014-03-14T08:23:32","modified_gmt":"2014-03-14T08:23:32","slug":"charamei-i-do-wonder-how-gallifreyan-culture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2014\/03\/14\/charamei-i-do-wonder-how-gallifreyan-culture\/","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Charamei: I do wonder how Gallifreyan culture accommodates the fact that as a species they virtually all have some kind of really severe obsession, though<br \/>\nCharamei: like, I suspect the obsession-as-species-trait is related to the fact that they have obscenely long lives<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Well, they probably set their own work hours<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Except for politicians, whose obsession is generally politics<br \/>\nCharamei: indeed<br \/>\nCharamei: not that we&#8217;re looking at anyone in particular, of course<br \/>\nCharamei: any three people<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Not, not at all<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: And yeah, it&#8217;s probably related to their lifespan<br \/>\nCharamei: yeah<br \/>\nCharamei: Gallifreyans don&#8217;t seem to have &#8216;old age&#8217; as much as &#8216;I got bored of being alive and stopped getting up in the morning and then stopped breathing&#8217;<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: This is the species that schedules their own death<br \/>\nCharamei: yup<br \/>\nCharamei: are legally obliged to, in fact, so they can get re-uploaded<br \/>\nCharamei: because they never actually stop existing, they just have a brief respite from being alive<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: yep<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: *side-eyes Pandak*<br \/>\nCharamei: XD<br \/>\nCharamei: but, like&#8230; someone like the Master, who develops an obsession with a person. There&#8217;s got to be some kind of system for dealing with that in people who aren&#8217;t complete homicidal maniacs in every other respect as wellk<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: True<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: But what?<br \/>\nCharamei: idk<br \/>\nCharamei: I&#8217;d say rehab, but they need *something* to focus on<br \/>\nCharamei: &#8230;this is going to get very Black Ribboner, isn&#8217;t it<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: &#8230;.It would<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: And of course there would be a very complex ritual involved<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: I wonder if they ever tried to make Koschei do it<br \/>\nCharamei: probably<br \/>\nCharamei: that&#8217;s probably how he devloped the secondary obsession with universal domination<br \/>\nCharamei: slight backfire<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Slight<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: He left mid-ritual<br \/>\nCharamei: needed a pee<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: No, left Gallifrey<br \/>\nCharamei: ah<br \/>\nCharamei: well, you know what the queues for the toilets can be like<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nCharamei: one of the rules of Gallifreyan obsession, of course, is that it must be downplayed in public at all times owing to Reasons of pretentiousness<br \/>\nCharamei: and honestly, as long as you&#8217;re on Gallifrey this is fine, because everyone knows that when you say &#8216;small hobby&#8217; you actually mean &#8216;consumes my every waking thought&#8217;<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nCharamei: then you get offworld and some aliens have things that they just&#8230; do for a while and then get bored of?<br \/>\nCharamei: and then they do something else?<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: And they do it for, like, a year<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Like, why even bother?<br \/>\nCharamei: seriously<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: You haven&#8217;t even gotten started until you&#8217;ve spent at least a century on it<br \/>\nCharamei: and during that year they don&#8217;t even learn everything there is to learn about the thing and write five monographs<br \/>\nCharamei: what are they even doing with their hobby time<br \/>\nCharamei: relaxing?<br \/>\nCharamei: &#8230;I wonder if this is why Gallifreyan culture seems to like paradoxes so much, because you can go round them forever and never get to the end<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: oooo<br \/>\nCharamei: they&#8217;re the perfect timewasters<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Well, they do have several millenia to waste<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Also it&#8217;s not considered odd if a Time Lord takes a century off work to pursue something that&#8217;s caught their interest<br \/>\nCharamei: no<br \/>\nCharamei: in fact doesn&#8217;t Four say that? Admittedly he&#8217;s probably being a prat<br \/>\nCharamei: &#8220;I&#8217;m entitled to a fifty-year break every two centuries&#8221; or something<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s accurate, though<\/p>\n<p>Charamei: Time Lords with silly little obsessions<br \/>\nCharamei: and just how far will their otherwise completely oppressive justice system allow leeway for this shit<br \/>\nCharamei: (Aliens must get so confused)<br \/>\nCharamei: (apparently &#8216;Well, knitting has always been a small hobby of mine&#8230;&#8217; is an acceptable reason to commute a sentence from forced regeneration to a mere five hours of torture)<br \/>\nCharamei: (and for some reaosn it doesn&#8217;t work when the aliens try it)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Leela figuring out the justice system<br \/>\nCharamei: omg yes<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: And asking Romana questions<br \/>\nCharamei: yes<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: and Romana doesn&#8217;t see what the problem is<br \/>\nCharamei: and Andred, and Narvin<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Yes, and Rodan<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Even Brax, on occasion<br \/>\nCharamei: and they all get more and more uncomfortable because nobody wants to admit the real reason for it<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: It&#8217;s just not something you *talk* about<br \/>\nCharamei: there are some things you just don&#8217;t talk about with aliens, even friendly ones, and the major flaw inherent in Time Lord psychology is one of them<br \/>\nCharamei: no<br \/>\nCharamei: it&#8217;s just something you kind of&#8230; accept, and work around in your friends, and condemn in your enemies<br \/>\nCharamei: (Romana and Darkel slinging &#8216;Well she&#8217;s completely obsessed with being President!&#8217; at one another and everyone just kind of smiles and nods like, of course you both are, otherwise you&#8217;d be doing something else)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: yes<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: XD<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: And Brax has &#8216;a small interest in art collecting&#8217;<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Which is why Romana hasn&#8217;t turned him in for breaking every law of time out there to build his collection<br \/>\nCharamei: exactly<br \/>\nCharamei: Narvin&#8217;s mild interest in astronomy probably translates to his entire bedroom being covered in star charts<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: Romana doesn&#8217;t even blink when he points out an extremely obscure fact about a minor space phenomenon relevant to the discussion<br \/>\nCharamei: nope<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (&#8230;there probably isn&#8217;t a rehabilitation process for problematic obsessions. You just get mind probed a couple times as a warning, then exiled if you don&#8217;t find something else)<br \/>\nCharamei: (&#8230;yeah)<br \/>\nCharamei: (there are some psychic doctors who specialise in fixing this stuff but you have to go and actually find them)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (and most people don&#8217;t *want* to)<br \/>\nCharamei: (no, because wanting to destroy the universe is perfectly harmless, it&#8217;s only a thought exercise, of course they&#8217;d never&#8230; oh, hey, a Doomsday device!)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: ( XD )<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (Well there was also Shada)<br \/>\nCharamei: (yeah)<br \/>\nCharamei: (on the plus side, it does probably mean that people give Leela more leeway than you might expect when it comes to going hunting etc)<br \/>\nCharamei: (Andred and Rodan explained it as a mild interest and everyone just kind of nodded knowingly and left her to it)<br \/>\nCharamei: (she has no idea why of course)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (Most Gallifreyans don&#8217;t actually realize everyone in the universe isn&#8217;t like this)<br \/>\nCharamei: ( no)<br \/>\nCharamei: (that&#8217;s just what happens when you get interested in something)<br \/>\nCharamei: (then they go out there and start sabotaging fluid links so they can look around and the aliens are very unforgiving for absolutely no reason)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (That&#8217;s what interest *is*)<br \/>\nCharamei: (exactly!)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (Really, completely irrational. They&#8217;ll never understand how these aliens think)<br \/>\nCharamei: (nope)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (The Rani was totally taken aback when the Doctor tried to get her experiments shut down)<br \/>\nCharamei: ( yes)<br \/>\nCharamei: (and every time a companion says something like &#8220;Are you enjoying this?&#8221; the Doctor gets utter culture shock)<br \/>\nCharamei: (of course they&#8217;re enjoying it that doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t also care)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (this is what they *do*, this is what they&#8217;re interested in)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (they can&#8217;t turn that off)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (it doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t care about the people involved)<br \/>\nCharamei: (the Master enjoys trying to kill them as well but they don&#8217;t see the humans getting on their high horses about that)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (really)<br \/>\nCharamei: (filling obsessions just feels good)<br \/>\nCharamei: (&#8230;we&#8217;ve just found Time Lord sex)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (omg)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (does that mean Time Lord marriages are &#8216;our obsessions both line up very nicely with each other right now, let&#8217;s be joined at the hip until they diverge again&#8217;?)<br \/>\nCharamei: (&#8230;quite probably)<br \/>\nCharamei: (Darling I very much enjoyed your paper on the inverse correlation of x and y please marry me and we should discuss this at every opportunity)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (and they proceed to discuss it for the next 500 years)<br \/>\nCharamei: (yes, with occasional pauses to write papers)<br \/>\nDromeianindistress: (&#8230;Gallifreyan conversations tend to be very long)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Charamei: I do wonder how Gallifreyan culture accommodates the fact that as a species they virtually all have some kind of really severe obsession, though Charamei: like, I suspect the obsession-as-species-trait is related to the fact that they have obscenely long lives Dromeianindistress: Well, they probably set their own work hours Dromeianindistress: Except for politicians, &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2014\/03\/14\/charamei-i-do-wonder-how-gallifreyan-culture\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"chat","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[13,373,22883,4477,22884,4],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/222321"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=222321"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/222321\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=222321"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=222321"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=222321"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}