{"id":171575,"date":"2015-01-21T13:21:14","date_gmt":"2015-01-21T13:21:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/01\/21\/fuckingconversations-hsavinien\/"},"modified":"2018-09-11T12:38:49","modified_gmt":"2018-09-11T12:38:49","slug":"fuckingconversations-hsavinien","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/01\/21\/fuckingconversations-hsavinien\/","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-171575 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/01\/21\/fuckingconversations-hsavinien\/attachment\/171576\/'><img width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/tumblr_mxwuc6PrTZ1ri9omio1_640-150x150.png\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/tumblr_mxwuc6PrTZ1ri9omio1_640-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/tumblr_mxwuc6PrTZ1ri9omio1_640-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/fuckingconversations.tumblr.com\/post\/108263045848\/hsavinien-philliptunalunatique-this-isnt-a\" target=\"_blank\">fuckingconversations<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/hsavinien.tumblr.com\/post\/106425358375\/philliptunalunatique-this-isnt-a-fucking\" target=\"_blank\">hsavinien<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/philliptunalunatique.tumblr.com\/post\/70244397310\/this-isnt-a-fucking-competition-bard\" target=\"_blank\">philliptunalunatique<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>this isn\u2019t a fucking competition, bard.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2026I recognize the joke, but these are <em>totally different<\/em> kinds of bows, each with its own benefits and suited to its user.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Bard\u2019s using a longbow.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Longbows are <em>awesome<\/em> and take a fuckton of regular practice to use, because the muscle strain required to be a longbowman(\/woman) actually deforms the arms and back of the user.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>&ldquo;Bard the Bowman&rdquo; is still known by that sobriquet even though he\u2019s low status, his family\u2019s life and profession changed when the dragon attacked.\u00a0 Why would he be called that, if not that he\u2019s still in regular practice and people see him using the thing over and over and over?\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Longbows are less-damaged by damp than composites, being made of once single piece of wood rather than layers of material, which is handy if one lives in the middle of a freaking lake.<\/li>\n<li>The longbow changed the face of warfare in real life, esp. for England.\u00a0 They\u2019re effective killing machines over long distance, even against armored enemies.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Conclusion: Bard\u2019s a tank-muscled distance shot used to fighting with good sightlines.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Legolas and Tauriel use recurve bows, albeit in different styles.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Legolas\u2019 looks like a Turkish bow, though I don\u2019t recall seeing him use a thumb draw (which is not mandatory if you\u2019ve got super strong elf-fingers, I guess).<\/li>\n<li>Tauriel\u2019s looks to be a Scythian composite bow by the shape.<\/li>\n<li>Composite recurve bows are much easier to use in confined spaces and at odd angles.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>They have been historically used by folks who specialize in archer tricks like multiple arrow shots (a thing we have seen Legolas do).\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Because of the curves, composites pack heavy draw weight (the factor that determines with what force, i.e. how fast and far, the arrow will travel) into limited space.<\/li>\n<li>Short draw (the distance you have to pull back the arrow to shoot it) means a quicker release time and quicker time to get your next arrow on the string.<\/li>\n<li>Legolas and Tauriel fight in a forest, not know for long sight lines or easy travel, nor for enemies who can be seen coming.\u00a0 They need weapons that won\u2019t be getting caught on a bush at an inopportune time. Likewise, you see fewer spears and longswords among the elves of the Greenwood.<\/li>\n<li>Conclusion: Legolas and Tauriel are guerrilla fighters from a heavily-forested territory and their weapons reflect that.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Kili also uses a composite recurve bow.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>For practical purposes, note that Kili has significantly shorter arms than any of the other archers here mentioned. Long draws, like on Bard\u2019s longbow, are not feasible and that means he\u2019s not going to get the power he is capable of producing.<\/li>\n<li>Dwarves are fucking strong, all right?\u00a0 That wee little bow looks very like the Mongolian horse-bow in size and shape that my friend used with a draw weight of 55 lbs.\u00a0 (I\u2019m not a weakling and I can draw 35 for a decent length of time when in practice).\u00a0 Kili\u2019s could easily be upwards of 75-100 lbs.<\/li>\n<li>Kili\u2019s a hunter.\u00a0 Likely, his main concern with a bow (when not following his uncle on an inadvisable quest) is the procurement of dinner for his family.\u00a0 To do that with a bow you need to be very quiet or very quick on the draw.\u00a0 Dwarves are not known for being super-quiet, though I believe I remember something about Fili and Kili being better at that than is typical.<\/li>\n<li>Anything that can kill a deer can probably kill a person (or an orc).\u00a0 That little horse-bow can easily kill or maim.<\/li>\n<li>Conclusion: Kili is a hunter. He uses a bow that allows for the production of a lot of power at short notice and is suited to his size and strength.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Bigger is not always most effective.\u00a0 Your medieval weaponry rant has concluded for the day, unless someone wants to talk to me about swords.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>yes please lets talk about swords<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>fuckingconversations: hsavinien: philliptunalunatique: this isn\u2019t a fucking competition, bard. I\u2026I recognize the joke, but these are totally different kinds of bows, each with its own benefits and suited to its user.\u00a0 Bard\u2019s using a longbow.\u00a0 Longbows are awesome and take a fuckton of regular practice to use, because the muscle strain required to be a &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/01\/21\/fuckingconversations-hsavinien\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[18854,672,9764,4],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171575"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=171575"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171575\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":171577,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171575\/revisions\/171577"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=171575"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=171575"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=171575"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}