{"id":135433,"date":"2015-09-21T18:41:49","date_gmt":"2015-09-21T18:41:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/09\/21\/safety-on\/"},"modified":"2015-09-21T18:41:49","modified_gmt":"2015-09-21T18:41:49","slug":"safety-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/09\/21\/safety-on\/","title":{"rendered":"safety on?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/fuckyeahisawthat.tumblr.com\/post\/129526064450\" target=\"_blank\">fuckyeahisawthat<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/lies.tumblr.com\/post\/128720814296\" target=\"_blank\">lies<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/bonehandledknife.tumblr.com\/post\/123897681430\" target=\"_blank\">bonehandledknife<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/schwarmerei1.tumblr.com\/post\/123876521529\" target=\"_blank\">schwarmerei1<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/schwarmerei1.tumblr.com\/post\/123873325794\" target=\"_blank\">schwarmerei1<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/bonehandledknife.tumblr.com\/post\/123871797865\" target=\"_blank\">bonehandledknife<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/ninety6tears.tumblr.com\/post\/123870672171\" target=\"_blank\">ninety6tears<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/bonehandledknife.tumblr.com\/post\/123870247940\" target=\"_blank\">bonehandledknife<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/freshhexes.tumblr.com\/post\/123869438200\" target=\"_blank\">freshhexes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I feel like in the scene where Furiosa is showing Max the killswitch sequence, he moves to to turn the safety back on on his gun. Is this just me? I could have sworn I saw\/heard it. <a href=\"http:\/\/tmblr.co\/mPyD86xtLOIeunyjkY8EAaA\" target=\"_blank\">bonehandledknife<\/a><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/tmblr.co\/mhuedhILh3bzgc8YFjztBFA\" target=\"_blank\">primarybufferpanel<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/tmblr.co\/m6h0ZiFN_xkUmPhj1GnsARA\" target=\"_blank\">oneangryshot<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So I watched that part maybe 6 times and I still can\u2019t tell what he\u2019s doing.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/3dd7c1c0a19bc5aa329d94a88427b498\/tumblr_inline_nrd32g7Ixv1r0aa8d_540.gif\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>The problem is the Grip Safety is very near the Hammer, and they would mean two completely opposite things.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This would have to be a dvd commentary thing unless someone can Elliot Spencer that shit and tell us if that\u2019s the very distinctive sound of a hammer being cocked or the very distinctive sound of a safety being put back on.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Unless a gun is a revolver, I think, having to click back the hammer manually when you haven\u2019t just reloaded is a Hollywood myth. So if we\u2019re trusting this movie to be realistic about weapons use, it would be the safety.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Well from what I understand you need to always set the <i>first<\/i> shot, and it should be down for the following shots.<\/p>\n<p>So I went ahead and tried to find a good side-angle on the gun from before the kill-switch sequence:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/a8a0c16df69af0fe7847dd5eb25d41f7\/tumblr_inline_nrd47qTm8Y1r0aa8d_540.png\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>Whiiiich actually looks like a gun <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usacarry.com\/carrying-cocked-locked\/\" target=\"_blank\">where actually the <b>trigger<\/b> action both cocks the hammer and fires the gun<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If so, would mean that, yeah, he\u2019s probably putting the safety back on, great catch!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The safety features are pretty specific to the type of gun. This one is a Glock 17 (if someone corrects me \u2013 they\u2019ll be right \u2013 but I\u2019ll be sad if I screwed up recognizing a freaking Glock!) and the safety mechanism are as follows:<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Glock#Safety\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Glock#Safety<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a semiautomatic (each pull of the trigger fires one shot and loads the next round) and has a firing pin rather than a hammer one cocks manually.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>After watching more videos of people loading and unloading Glocks than I ever thought I would\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Not having access to the movie I can\u2019t check to see what is being referred to, but the Glock\u2019s \u201csafety\u201d is built into the trigger. Pulling it activates several internal mechanisms. That is, the gun is \u201csafe\u201d because it CANNOT accidentally fire by being dropped, bumped, etc \u2013 it can only fire by the trigger being pulled. It does not have a lever\/button\/dial like some handguns that renders the gun inoperable unless it\u2019s turned off. You can order them with a \u201cinternal locking system\u201d (I think this is because of certain police forces requiring such a thing) but it looks like this:<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.everydaynodaysoff.com\/2010\/03\/24\/glock-internal-safety-lock\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.everydaynodaysoff.com\/2010\/03\/24\/glock-internal-safety-lock\/<\/a><br \/>And has an actual key that needs to be turned. Pretty sure that\u2019s not what you guys are referring to Max doing. <\/p>\n<p>The only way to \u201cdeescalate\u201d (hee) a Glock is to take out the magazine, and then eject the chambered round. And obviously that\u2019s not what happens in this scene.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Errr? Okay so what is he doing? Because there was a very intentional click added to the sound.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Guns aren\u2019t my thing, but I came across more detail and wanted to update.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out it\u2019s not the (hammerless) Glock 17 that we\u2019re talking about. Max is dual-wielding in this scene:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/1878a8e386c6bfe969ef677663289703\/tumblr_inline_nufa2pNQnk1qz7qrq_540.png\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>The pistol in his right hand is the Glock from the side of the war rig. But it\u2019s the pistol in his left hand that he\u2019s pointing at Furiosa during the \u201cWhat do I call you?\u201d exchange:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/c5fb4fa8a1adcda7ddfef3b0b0f1de45\/tumblr_inline_nufa4j1wC21qz7qrq_540.png\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imfdb.org\/wiki\/Mad_Max:_Fury_Road#Pistols\" target=\"_blank\">According to the gun obsessives at the Internet Movie Firearm Database<\/a>,\u00a0that\u2019s a Taurus PT99AF, Furiosa\u2019s personal sidearm, which Max took when he was rounding up weapons in the cab. Here\u2019s a shot of it from earlier in the movie, showing its cocked hammer:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/4fc2416bcc46c781f00a9ae8c660f9d9\/tumblr_inline_nuf9dohbyn1qz7qrq_540.jpg\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>So everything make sense: the click is indeed meant to be taken as Max uncocking the pistol (or putting the safety on?), de-escalating in response to Furiosa giving him the kill-switch sequence. No magical nonexistent Glock hammer\/safety is required.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Nice clarification! I remember like three months ago when folks were trying to figure out what was going on in this scene. I was totally prepared to accept this as a\u00a0\u201cstorytelling point more important than totally weapons accuracy\u201d thing. But of course it\u2019s the other gun.<\/p>\n<p>And, continuing with the Chekov\u2019s Armory theme here\u2026Max confiscates a whole mess of guns from various parts of the Rig. But I like that he\u2019s holding the two guns that have dramatic significance so far at that point in the story: the Glock from the fight, and the gun that Furiosa pulls out during the Buzzard chase and eventually hits Ace in the face with.<\/p>\n<p>(Feels break for the realization that at some point, she took a moment to wipe Ace\u2019s blood off it.)<\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/3dcc4aaa08e9e7705779e28f30aad50f\/tumblr_inline_nuzzfnD7pM1r2eb40_540.png\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>fuckyeahisawthat: lies: bonehandledknife: schwarmerei1: schwarmerei1: bonehandledknife: ninety6tears: bonehandledknife: freshhexes: I feel like in the scene where Furiosa is showing Max the killswitch sequence, he moves to to turn the safety back on on his gun. Is this just me? I could have sworn I saw\/heard it. bonehandledknifeprimarybufferpanel oneangryshot So I watched that part maybe 6 &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/09\/21\/safety-on\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;safety on?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[1513,1322,1512,4],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/135433"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=135433"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/135433\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=135433"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=135433"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=135433"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}