{"id":128134,"date":"2015-11-08T07:03:12","date_gmt":"2015-11-08T07:03:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/11\/08\/monstersandheartache-thefighting-agathons\/"},"modified":"2015-11-08T07:03:12","modified_gmt":"2015-11-08T07:03:12","slug":"monstersandheartache-thefighting-agathons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2015\/11\/08\/monstersandheartache-thefighting-agathons\/","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"

monstersandheartache<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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thefighting-agathons<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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monstersandheartache<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Oh gods someone stop me from, alongside my rewatch,\u00a0talking about how for all that it got touted as being so \u2018progressive\u2019, Torchwod actually often treated Jack\u2019s sexuality and how he expressed\/practiced it as a joke\/like he was somehow not trustworthy in relationships\/incapably of being\u00a0honest and faithful (for\u00a0A GIVEN DEFINITION BECAUSE EVERYONE\u2019S TAKE ON WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS DIFFERENT)\u00a0because I just keep coming back to little things we got that fed that and it is REALLY TICKING ME OFF.<\/p>\n

(keeping in mind that this would be from a pansexual, non-binary person who had discussions about having an\u00a0open relationship in the past\u00a0so yeah, maybe rubbing salt in some very raw wounds a lot)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

NO SERIOUSLY THO <\/p>\n

Like I remember I kept up with one of those doctor who social justice blogs and they were always championing Jack as like, the ideal queer character and how great rtd was and I was like look. Jack IS great and he\u2019s a lot better than any queer character moffat has written but Jack still falls under a lot of awful tropes and these tropes are all played straight in doctor who and torchwood and there definitely does need to be a conversation about that (and I mean. He\u2019s still white like that does also need to be addressed when you\u2019re holding him up as the ideal whole tosh is standing right there). <\/p>\n

And I got COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN like they told me I was slut shaming or whatever and I was like ALRIGHT BUT IM PAN (that\u2019s how I identified back then) I THINK I GET A SAY. I mean he is great representation but they also write him really stereotypically as, like you said, the ~slutty unfaithful pan~ without and that adds to bad stereotypes about pan (and poly and bi) people irl.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

# I\u2019M COOL WITH HIM BEING THE WAY HE IS BUT THE SHOWS ACT LIKE ITS A BAD THING AND IT\u2019S SO AGGRAVATING<\/a><\/p>\n

ALL OF THIS. Like, obviously Jack is super important to me even without being one of the sources of my coming to terms with my idenities like he was for a lot of people, and while in THEORY I love him being into poly\/open relationships, and some of the tie in novles and things have handled it well\u00a0
(I will always be grateful for the \u2018I\u2019d catch him if he fell\u2019 ‘We\u2019d catch him together\u2019 <\/i>exchange between him and Ianto in The Sin Eaters, that was wonderful) the SHOW was absolutely awful about it which was especially gross when set aside things like the unnamed woman he married in the early 1900s since that very least implies he can and will be faithful and presumably monogamous with someone (John could arguably be thrown in there too, even if their being together for so long was in good part based on circumstance), but just-<\/p>\n

-ugh the constant implication that his eye would always be straying (particularly in Gwen\u2019s direction\u2013I have a lot of feelings about the fact Ianto was SUPPOSED to die in S1 and I have suspicions that Gwen would have been thrown at Jack had that panned out) without any regard to how that would affect Ianto makes me so angry, ESPECIALLY after freaking Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, when without any prompting he is the one to make the first move to make their relationship definitvely MORE AND JUST\u2013<\/p>\n

ARGH.\u00a0<\/p>\n

(and ugh TOSH yeah just\u2013don\u2019t get me started on RTD\u2019s biphobic bullshit. At least not beyond jack because we\u2019d be here for weeks)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I\u2019m still upset about the transphobic bit in Greeks Bearing Gifts, tbh<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

monstersandheartache: thefighting-agathons: monstersandheartache: Oh gods someone stop me from, alongside my rewatch,\u00a0talking about how for all that it got touted as being so \u2018progressive\u2019, Torchwod actually often treated Jack\u2019s sexuality and how he expressed\/practiced it as a joke\/like he was somehow not trustworthy in relationships\/incapably of being\u00a0honest and faithful (for\u00a0A GIVEN DEFINITION BECAUSE EVERYONE\u2019S TAKE … <\/p>\n

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