{"id":119961,"date":"2016-01-03T23:52:20","date_gmt":"2016-01-03T23:52:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2016\/01\/03\/the-graveyard-scene-5\/"},"modified":"2016-01-03T23:52:20","modified_gmt":"2016-01-03T23:52:20","slug":"the-graveyard-scene-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.merindab.com\/private\/2016\/01\/03\/the-graveyard-scene-5\/","title":{"rendered":"The graveyard scene"},"content":{"rendered":"

sherlockholmesandsnowflakes<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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iwantthatbelstaffanditsoccupant<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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sherlockholmesandsnowflakes<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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iwantthatbelstaffanditsoccupant<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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bluebellofbakerstreet<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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iwantthatbelstaffanditsoccupant<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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iriswallpaper<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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merindab<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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I\u2019m still not over the fact that, even in his mind palace, when Mary takes John away:<\/p>\n

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Sherlock knows that Lestrade and Mycroft will stay:<\/p>\n

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And Lestrade will get into it with him, get his hands dirty, work just as hard as he is:<\/p>\n

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And Mycroft will shine a light on everything:<\/p>\n

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Because at the end of the day, while he wants John Watson, needs him. These two have always had his back and always will:<\/p>\n

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Oh my heart. This is a lovely summary, @merindab<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I am so glad his subconscious knows this.
And get your f-in act together, John.
Sorry. I don\u2019t think tough love works. I\u2019ve seen people destroyed by it. And that seems to be John\u2019s mantra here.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

But this was in Sherlock\u2019s mind-palace. \u00a0So, yes, Sherlock knows that Greg and Mycroft will stand by him – but he still thinks that John will get angry and leave.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Real John does stand by him – in fact real Mycroft relies on him to do so:\u00a0\u201cLook after him, please.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

You are right, of course. But I also think if you haven\u2019t made it clear you will stand by someone in such a way that they *know* it\u2026that is sort of an issue still. Mycroft shouldn\u2019t have to ask. But then again, that\u2019s just me being my usual Sherlock-centric self. Sherlock feels this way, and it\u2019s not without reason. And yes, Mary takes him away, but he was ready to leave on his own using rhetoric I do associate with giving up on addicts when they need you most. I think this is a John issue. A deep John family issue where Sherlock thinks John will ditch him as he did his sister.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I think that, in reality, John would be there for Sherlock if Sherlock asked him to be. But Sherlock believes that John would leave him because he saw John leave him when he got married to Mary – we know that they hadn\u2019t seen one another in awhile or been in communication in awhile at the start of HLV. So, in that sense, John did distance himself from Sherlock. But John has reason for distancing himself from Sherlock too. Sherlock left John too. John suffered indescribably when Sherlock \u201cdied\u201d. And he left John by more than just faking dead, he left John by allowing John to believe he was dead but letting others know that he was not, including Mycroft, his parents, and Molly, someone who John would not have thought Sherlock to be close to, and certainly not closer than he saw himself to Sherlock. John would feel really betrayed by this. John already had trust issues, and this experience would only heighten them and cause himself to distance himself from Sherlock. We as an audience know why Sherlock \u201cdied\u201d and didn\u2019t tell John his plans – we know that, ultimately, Sherlock did all of this for John – but I don\u2019t think that John really fully understands that yet. I don\u2019t think Sherlock and him have properly talked about that yet. They both have communication issues. \u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Yes, this is all true. And I think Sherlock is well aware of how he contributed to this emotional mess. We\u2019ve gone round this as a fandom, back when we discussed forgiveness for the Fall, and there\u2019s no need for me to go on, accept to acknowledge that I generally do see things more from Sherlock\u2019s POV. <\/p>\n

My main point was to confirm that, through this, *we know Sherlock sees Lestrade and Mycroft as being there for him through it all, in ways John isn\u2019t\u2026and not just due to Mary, because in this scene John was ready to leave before Mary decided to take him away*.
We have greater insight about what Sherlock has thought about John being there for him or not, and this perception stays with him right up until the waterfall. If John is truly that supportive, Sherlock doesn\u2019t feel it. Yet.
Yup, my personal issues surrounding being there for someone without them ever having to ask. Intuiting. That\u2019s what good art does. Makes you think about this stuff.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Hmm. I love your posts. Thanks so much for them. \ud83d\ude42 I love unpacking and thinking through everything, and your thoughtful posts definitely inspire me to do so.<\/p>\n

Yes, Lestrade and Mycroft have helped Sherlock through some of the toughest moments of his life – dealing with drug addiction – and John hasn\u2019t, so it totally makes sense that Sherlock has confidence they will be there for him and that they are there for him in this scene. In fact, John has turned away from Sherlock – in a sense – during this newest difficult moment of Sherlock\u2019s life, by getting married and then throwing himself seemingly completely into his married life (as I already mentioned, we know at the start of HLV that they have been out of contact after John\u2019s marriage). Hence this is perhaps why Mary takes John away in this scene, and why John is willing to go with her even before she says she is taking him away; that\u2019s where Sherlock has seen and felt John\u2019s support and loyalty has gone – to Mary and the marriage. I know we have already discussed John and the Fall and the emotional mess that Sherlock has caused ad nauseam, but I did bring it up again because I still think it relates very directly to why Sherlock doesn\u2019t feel John\u2019s support yet.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

sherlockholmesandsnowflakes: iwantthatbelstaffanditsoccupant: sherlockholmesandsnowflakes: iwantthatbelstaffanditsoccupant: bluebellofbakerstreet: iwantthatbelstaffanditsoccupant: iriswallpaper: merindab: I\u2019m still not over the fact that, even in his mind palace, when Mary takes John away: Sherlock knows that Lestrade and Mycroft will stay: And Lestrade will get into it with him, get his hands dirty, work just as hard as he is: And Mycroft will … <\/p>\n

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