After Dean and Sam “aggressively hitchhike” onto the TARDIS, Sam tries to explain their situation to a very annoyed Doctor.

I decided to make a gifset of my favorite scene from the superwholockthecomic for Fanwork Friday.




This is always how I pictured a crossover between Doctor Who and Supernatural would look like. The Doctor would hate Sam and Dean. The Doctor thinks that you can always try to be diplomatic with someone; despite having lived hundreds of years and having gone through the time war, he doesn’t seem to understand that as much as he hates it, sometimes violence is unavoidable. Sometimes I think that he thinks that everyone who resorts to violence does so because they take some sick pleasure from doing so. He doesn’t seem to stop and think that maybe violence was the last option they had. Sam and Dean didn’t ask for their life. They don’t go around killing things for pleasure. When they met that werewolf woman who Sam had sex with in either season one or two, I can’t remember, did they just kill her right after they found out her problem? No. They did everything they could to help her. When they met the group of vampires who didn’t want to attack humans, did they kill them anyway? No. Dean was a little skeptical at first, for good reason, but he came around. I love both of these shows, but for a man who has lived hundreds of years, met the Daleks, killed all of the Daleks and all of his own people out of pure necessity, the Doctor does not act like he really understands evil. I’m not saying he doesn’t, I’m just saying to me it seems like he doesn’t always act like it. Now, of course I don’t think that violence is good, and I think that if we can avoid it, we should. Violence should only be a last resort. The Doctor doesn’t seem to understand that there is evil that cannot be reasoned with, evil that cannot be saved. I know that he does resort to violence in some episodes, what I’m saying is that sometimes he acts like he would never, ever, resort to violence because it is terrible. He also acts like he is so much better than everyone because he hates violence. Please, correct me if I’m wrong, honestly. It’s not like Sam and Dean kill for fun. What they hunt are really, truly, evil things, things that will stop at nothing to spread hatred and destruction, that will always seek to destroy life. It reminds me of a comparison drawn between Superman and Batman by my history teacher. Superman and Batman both defend what is good and right in the world, but they see the world very differently. To Superman, the world is a good place, full of good people, and he has to protect it from outside evil forces that seek to corrupt it. Batman, on the other hand, thinks that the world is a much darker place, and that he has to save it from itself. To Superman evil was the anomaly. To Batman, the anomaly was goodness. I think that the Doctor tends to see things more like Superman (sort of, not an exact parallel), that the powers of goodness in the universe will always be strong enough to overcome evil without violence. Sam and Dean, however, feel that goodness is fragile, and that in order to keep it alive, they often times must resort to violence to combat the evil forces that would stop at nothing to destroy it.

Again, I’m not saying that violence is by any means good, and I know that the Doctor has been violent and that it broke his heart to be, because he tries to love everyone, to see that there can be goodness in everyone, and that is a good thing. I’m not criticizing him for that. I just wish he wouldn’t act sometimes like humans are always so savage and that he’s better than them for being more peaceful. But Sam and Dean have literally been through hell. They have seen the most wicked and vile parts of the earth. And they don’t love violence any more than the Doctor; but they do what is necessary, even though they hate themselves for it, just like the Doctor. I think when crossover arguments like this between these characters happen I will usually tend to lean towards Sam and Dean’s side, because the Doctor has, yes, saved earth numerous times, because he loves itSam and Dean have lived through so much suffering and have received mostly grief from their lives in this world, but there is still always something worth saving to them, even if it’s strangers who can have the opportunity to live better lives than they did. They do not love the world, but they have saved it anyway.  

reblogging for commentary.

I also think it’s interesting to note that Torchwood is basically what Sam and Dean are forced to do (kill because they have no choice) but it’s set in the Doctor Who universe. So Jack is forced to carry that scorn on his back, that he expects himself to act like that Doctor, to save the world without harming the people that matter like the Doctor.

Except that he can’t. Children of Earth shows us just how horribly human he is. The Doctor would NEVER sacrifice a child like that, he would stop time itself to find another way. We know that the Doctor would pull his usual brilliant self out of that situation without harming anyone, turn around and scorn the government for what he did and be on his jolly way.

But Jack isn’t the Doctor. He had to make a horrible sacrifice (several, in fact) and instead of coming out of that situation as a hero, he felt like a coward and murderer.

And this is just me mumbling on about why I think Torchwood and Supernatural make such a perfect crossover. But yes that’s I how expect Sam and Dean to react to any sanctimony from the Doctor. While Sam may feel slightly guilty (like Jack the poor boy has his own martyrdom complex) Dean specifically considers himself a grunt and he knows what they have to do to SURVIVE and he has no qualms about it.

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